Comments on: How survive zypper dup on system with bad internet connection http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/10/30/how-survive-zypper-dup-on-system-with-bad-internet-connection/ Blogs and Ramblings of the openSUSE Members Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:53:16 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Josef Reidinger http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/10/30/how-survive-zypper-dup-on-system-with-bad-internet-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-432 Josef Reidinger Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:55:01 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=269#comment-432 I think, that feature is planned, but for 11.1 is not enought resource to do it. Maybe for 11.2 I think, that feature is planned, but for 11.1 is not enought resource to do it. Maybe for 11.2

]]> By: Vincent http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/10/30/how-survive-zypper-dup-on-system-with-bad-internet-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-424 Vincent Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:46:30 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=269#comment-424 Agreed. I've broken my SUSE twice because of interruption of this kind. This feature is a nice one. Thanks Josef. I still think this should be part of YaST/zypp, if not default, at least with an option. Agreed.

I’ve broken my SUSE twice because of interruption of this kind.

This feature is a nice one. Thanks Josef. I still think this should be part of YaST/zypp, if not default, at least with an option.

]]> By: Peter Poeml http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/10/30/how-survive-zypper-dup-on-system-with-bad-internet-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-417 Peter Poeml Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:47:10 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=269#comment-417 As a yum user, I also call this a bug (and that's why there is a feature request about this). The way that zypper does updates is still centered around users with no network and with a CD in their disk drive. The size argument isn't one really, in my experience. I usually have some free disk space on some partition and can create a symlink to where there's room to cache the packages. It is just a precondition that packages exist on the system for a dist upgrade - unless you want to risk the system. Anyone who would complain that about needing too much disk space might not be aware of the possible consequences of "saving" this disk space - and I'm sure they would complain even more if the update breaks their system. At the least, zypper could check for available disk space, and use it if it's there. If it's not sufficient, it could still offer to do a one-by-one update, downloading on the fly, after displaying a big fat warning. As a yum user, I also call this a bug (and that’s why there is a feature request about this).

The way that zypper does updates is still centered around users with no network and with a CD in their disk drive.

The size argument isn’t one really, in my experience. I usually have some free disk space on some partition and can create a symlink to where there’s room to cache the packages.

It is just a precondition that packages exist on the system for a dist upgrade – unless you want to risk the system. Anyone who would complain that about needing too much disk space might not be aware of the possible consequences of “saving” this disk space – and I’m sure they would complain even more if the update breaks their system.

At the least, zypper could check for available disk space, and use it if it’s there. If it’s not sufficient, it could still offer to do a one-by-one update, downloading on the fly, after displaying a big fat warning.

]]> By: Josef Reidinger http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/10/30/how-survive-zypper-dup-on-system-with-bad-internet-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-416 Josef Reidinger Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:03:00 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=269#comment-416 Reason is that people complain that it eat to much space. If you do dist-upgrade it take around 2.5 GB, more or less depend on what you have installed...and some people restrict space for root and have all space in home. So default is not caching (also zypp (library under zypper) doesn't delete old package, this is planned to future). Reason is that people complain that it eat to much space. If you do dist-upgrade it take around 2.5 GB, more or less depend on what you have installed…and some people restrict space for root and have all space in home. So default is not caching (also zypp (library under zypper) doesn’t delete old package, this is planned to future).

]]> By: Ralph Ulrich http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/10/30/how-survive-zypper-dup-on-system-with-bad-internet-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-413 Ralph Ulrich Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:31:10 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=269#comment-413 If you previously used Debian this behaviour of zypper you will call a bug. I wonder why this caching is not the default for dist-upgrades. If you previously used Debian this behaviour of zypper you will call a bug. I wonder why this caching is not the default for dist-upgrades.

]]> By: Andreas Jaeger http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/10/30/how-survive-zypper-dup-on-system-with-bad-internet-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-397 Andreas Jaeger Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:33:37 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=269#comment-397 Thanks for this tip! Hope there are more to come! Thanks for this tip! Hope there are more to come!

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