Comments on: systemd – and #osc10 https://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/10/08/systemd-and-osc2010/ Blogs and Ramblings of the openSUSE Members Fri, 06 Mar 2020 17:50:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5 By: Chris https://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/10/08/systemd-and-osc2010/#comment-3496 Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:45:12 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=5419#comment-3496 Good to know Linux is gaining upon Microsoft Windows 2000, after all these years…

]]> By: Andreas Jaeger https://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/10/08/systemd-and-osc2010/#comment-2995 Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:54:08 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=5419#comment-2995 Btw. there are more comments at: http://lwn.net/Articles/409304/

]]> By: Tom Zöhner https://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/10/08/systemd-and-osc2010/#comment-2994 Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:49:59 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=5419#comment-2994 It’s an init system, of course it doesn’t bring great new end user experience, a new kernel version doesn’t either. It’s just a really cool piece of technology and better than what we currently use.

]]> By: Sean https://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/10/08/systemd-and-osc2010/#comment-2993 Sat, 09 Oct 2010 20:43:38 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=5419#comment-2993 Arjan de Van’s analysis is interesting but he does set up a strawman argument that systemd inherently creates inefficient stalls. He asserts that systemd starts all services just-in-time which can be sub-optimal. However, systemd is perfectly capable of starting a service unconditionally at startup. Thus, with systemd you have a greater choice of strategies to employ to ensure that system resources are maximally employed on the most critical tasks.

]]> By: Anon https://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/10/08/systemd-and-osc2010/#comment-2991 Sat, 09 Oct 2010 18:53:23 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=5419#comment-2991 My understanding is that systemd is less about only starting services on demand but rather solving the dependency issues by using blocking sockets.

When it comes to booting quickly though, it’s less about starting everything in parallel and more about doing as little as possible. Sometimes tricks like prefetching also help as you can move stalls to more convenient locations. Arjan de Van loves talking about this stuff (e.g. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.meego.devel/5481 ).

]]> By: Rahul Sundaram https://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/10/08/systemd-and-osc2010/#comment-2989 Sat, 09 Oct 2010 08:57:10 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=5419#comment-2989 Andrew,

systemd was never dropped from Fedora 14. It is merely not the default.

]]> By: Andrew https://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/10/08/systemd-and-osc2010/#comment-2988 Sat, 09 Oct 2010 01:02:02 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=5419#comment-2988 Since systemd got dropped from Fedora 14, openSUSE 11.4 could be the very first major distro to ship it by default 🙂 It’s a really neat bit of engineering, and it sounds like Lennart and the rest of the team are really responsive to testing feedback and bug reports. I think getting it stable and performant by 11.4 will be easy with dev support.

]]> By: AlbertoP https://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/10/08/systemd-and-osc2010/#comment-2986 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:55:05 +0000 http://lizards.opensuse.org/?p=5419#comment-2986 My two cents: it is “under heavy development”, “new”, and not exactly bringing amazing functionality in terms of end-user experience. So, just wait for “11.5” 😉

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