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Future of Li-f-e: Linux for Education distribution

July 4th, 2016 by

We have come a long way since the first Li-f-e live media based on openSUSE was created, the current release is based on openSUSE Leap 42.1. Deployments by Indonesia’s education system is a shining example of openSUSE Education project’s accomplishment.

The openSUSE project has stopped producing live medias for Leap and also live-installer is dropped from live medias created for the Tumbleweed distribution. As Li-f-e is primarily a live distribution we would not be able to create any more medias without live-installer. So unless this situation changes we may not have Li-f-e based on Leap 42.2.

In the meantime I’ve had a look at Ubuntu to create Li-f-e based on the latest LTS release of Ubuntu-Mate, check it out here. Software selection available is kept identical to the Li-f-e based on openSUSE, however there is always a room for improvement, suggestions to enhance it are always welcome.

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6 Responses to “Future of Li-f-e: Linux for Education distribution”

  1. Hi!
    sad to read that 🙁

  2. BTW have you read about GeckoLinux?
    It’s a openSUSE spins, maybe you can do something similar with SUSE Studio
    https://geckolinux.github.io/

    One of their motivation is: “There is currently no official installable live media for openSUSE Leap 42.1.”

    ‘ve phun!

  3. Richard

    If live support was so important to you, why didn’t anyone from the Life team step up and support it when we called for help ? Why didn’t you help fix the bugs that led to its removal?

  4. Jigish Gohil

    I did, see: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2014-08/msg00048.html and https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Education/openSUSE-PromoDVD

    Also something being important does not automatically translate in programming expertise needed to fix low level stuff 🙂

    BTW, last bug report I see from 15th of last month show live-installer works fine, so not sure why it is dropped.
    https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982256

    • Richard

      Except that you didn’t – you were in conversations with our Leap Release Manager about making official LiveCDs. Last I heard you had his full support, and we were just waiting on you to drive it forward.

      The live-installer is still available in a devel repo, just not in the official Tumbleweed repos because it was broken for months, resulting in installs which did not work (as tested by openQA) and no one was fixing the issues.

      It’s really disappointing Jigish to see you making this decision when you were empowered to resolve the matters in openSUSE you claim as justification for this decision..

      • Jigish Gohil

        This was not my decision to make, no official live media means we cannot base Li-f-e on anything. I do not maintain live medias and live-installer or am interested/capable of doing it. I still cannot find references for any yast2-live-installer bugs that were not fixed for many months and the bugs I’ve linked to were bugs elsewhere being exposed by the live-installer.

        In our discussion I agreed to set up 42.1 PromoDVD image: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Education/openSUSE-PromoDVD
        and someone else will take it up from there, I would of course help maintain it if needed. Apologies for not being able to do more. Hopefully if there is any interest in openSUSE live medias, this post will get someone from wider openSUSE community to step up and take it forward.

        So there is still some hope for openSUSE Edu Li-f-e if 42.2 has live-installer in well tested working order and officially supported.

        Edit: Apart from reporting/fixing/workarounds bugs, have also submitted many fixes to live medias: https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/357822, https://build.opensuse.org/package/revisions/GNOME:Medias/gnome-next-live?showall=1

        Richard, it bothers me that you say “Except that you didn’t” in the face of evidence provided 🙂